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SKM_Data Frequent Visitor
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Re: How to disable the automatic inline hierarchy???

It has ruined my drill downs as well.  Here's the thing - the layering is a beautiful and powerful thing, but dashboard authors often will layer different cuts that aren't necessarily a hierarchy! (Our data is more rich that the standard products hierarchy often used in examples) We definitely need the ability now (not a month from now) to have the in-line hierarchy be an optional thing, as it was when it was a preview feature.  Optimally, it would be a visualization to visualiztion option.  It's also disappointing that the change was made to reports and dashboards that I didn't even republish since the general availability of the feature went live.  Our visuals should not fundamentally change without us taking action.

Power BI Team AlexGorev
Power BI Team

Re: How to disable the automatic inline hierarchy???

Couple thoughts and solutions on this topic…

  1. Consider changing from Column to Line chart. Line chart will use the continuous axis even if you use hierarchies and also now support drill and expand capabilities. Continues axis support for Column chart will be coming soon.
  2. You can switch from using the Hierarchy to Date Field per visual in the Field list. You can do this by clicking on the chevron next to the date field.
  3. We are working on improving the labels for categorical hierarchy mode on Column and Line charts. They will be nested without repeating of same text. Expect this soon.

Let me know if this helps!

 

Alex.

MikeThibs Regular Visitor
Regular Visitor

Re: How to disable the automatic inline hierarchy???

Alex,

     Thank you for the suggestion but unfortunetly that doesn't really help I believe.

  1. This would require changing Multiple reports and training users on new functionallity as well line charts don't always make sense for what we need to convey.
  2. The problem is associated with more than just date fields. If I have text fields for Distributor, rep and customer I'm not using any hierarchy function. The chart is unreadable when we drill down.
  3. While I'm sure everyone apprecitate the constant improvments this is a real issue that has rendered many of my current reports and charts unreadable. This shouldn't have been a default update that changed previously built visuals. I really should have been an option for each visual or something of that magnitude.

I've logged this as an issue at the below address and hope we can expedite this as much as possible. Thank for you consideration.

 

https://ideas.powerbi.com/forums/360879-issues/suggestions/15819574-automatic-inline-hierarchy-causi...

SKM_Data Frequent Visitor
Frequent Visitor

Re: How to disable the automatic inline hierarchy???

I couldn't agree more with Mike.  We should not have to do a workaround that isn't as insightful for something that was already perfect and suited out needs.  I too hope that this fix is expedited and the service can be changed back this weekend.  I will reiterate that this is a function that users should have control over whether to use or not.  I was demonstrating the expand functionality in a presentation yesterday and was railroaded by the un-readability that this unexpected change brought.  What should have warrented a "wow" instead wound up with me apologizing for the product.

Power BI Team Amanda
Power BI Team

Re: How to disable the automatic inline hierarchy???

Hi everyone! Thanks for the feedback. This is very helpful for us! I just want to let everyone know we hear you and are looking into this, both ways to improve the experience and giving y'all finer control over how the feature works. 

 

@zapppsr The fact that you are lossing your legend is a bug, we are looking into it right now and working on a fix.

 

@Tishchenko, would you mind sending me your pbix file so we can investigate a bit more? You can send it to amac@microsoft.com. If you can't share it with me, could you send me some images that include the fieldwell of the column chart?

Power BI Team AlexGorev
Power BI Team

Re: How to disable the automatic inline hierarchy???

Thanks Mike. We understand the issue and looking for options of resolving this quickly. Stay tuned...

 

Thanks,

Alex.

zapppsr Member
Member

Re: How to disable the automatic inline hierarchy???

Hi @Amanda, thanks for replying. It is always good to know there is someone looking our requests.

 

Regarding my chart, even if in that specific case it is a legend bug, on other charts where dates are not present, the new in-line hierarchy changed the context and even some numbers. Eg.:

 

If I had in the first level Cities, and on the second level Products, it would be like this:

 

Data

City 1 - Product A = 10

City 1 - Product B = 20

City 2 - Product A = 100

City 3 - Product B = 200

 

Previous Drill Down method and In-line Hierarchy:

 

Level 1:

City 1 = 30

City 2 = 300

 

Level 2: - (Expand All Drill Down)

Product A = 110

Product B  = 220

 

Level 2: - (In-Line Hierarchy Drill Down)

City 1 - Product A = 10

City 1 - Product B = 20

City 2 - Product A = 100

City 2 - Product B = 200

 

You can see, now, I miss some important information which was the sum of products, regardless the previous hierarchy.

As I mentioned before, congratulations, this is a new feature and very welcome, but not as a replacement for the old Expand All Drill down non-hierarchy bound. Specially when that change affect our reports in the middle of a meeting...

 

They are completely different ways of looking at data. And the old method is somehow more efficient in some scenarios, where I can have multiples charts in one, using the drill down.

 

I still advise adding a new button on the visuals allowing both drill downs (normal and in-line hierarchy) is the solution to benefit most people.

 

Do you know if this will be fixed only on next desktop release or will it be patched soon? At least if it is changed on the Power BI Online Service and you could spare us fixing some charts that would be great.

 

Thank you again for your help and please take our feedback as a means for improving this great tool which is Power BI.

MikeThibs Regular Visitor
Regular Visitor

Re: How to disable the automatic inline hierarchy???

Great Point @zapppsr. The change in the actual numbers is a big impact as well.

Power BI Team Amanda
Power BI Team

Re: How to disable the automatic inline hierarchy???

Thanks @zapppsr for this great example! We actually used your example in our conversations here. Smiley Happy As Alex mentioned, we are looking to release an update for this as soon as possible and are investigating options. You should hear something from us again in the next several days with a better estimate as to when the update will occur.

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Tishchenko Established Member
Established Member

Re: How to disable the automatic inline hierarchy???

Hi, @Amanda, can't send my PBIX, but simalar behavior you can investigate on Microsoft Solution Template "Campaign/Brand Management for Twitter" https://powerbi.microsoft.com/en-us/solution-templates/brand-management-twitter/

 

 

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